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Alefantis speaks 15 Nov - blames everyone else, doesn't address any of the evidence employs usual leftist tactic of names calling
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http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/article/20842321/the-consequences-of-pizza-gate-are-real-at-comet-ping-pong
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So at last he speaks. After a week. Predictably he calls the attackers "conspiracy theorist, white nationalists made up largely of racists, homophobic individuals who loosely tie together theories and do not attempt to find the truth, and when they do find truth that dispels their theories, they ignore it."
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Whilst not addressing any of the evidence, the creepy artwork, hashtags, comments, photos, the repeated claims its a family place great for kids, even on Friday evening whilst promoting inappropriate material EG http://thedailysouth.southernliving.com/2008/04/28/comet-ping-pong/ and even though there are bands with dark themes and lyrics playing (EG - Sex Stains - what a perfect evening for kids!
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Alefantis is clearly shaking and employing his media friends to protect him. Too late, the cat is out the bag.
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I don't recall anyone here or elsewhere discussing white nationalism on this topic. How trite.
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The only claim that I could see is the homophobia. I've seen "faggot" on her a few times. Otherwise this is obviously bullshit.
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Edit: but I mean we're talking about child rapists not gays.
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This shit is mostly going on on /pol/. Sure there is a lot of white nationalism going on as well.
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Dont think you are so relevant reddit. Its not always about you ;)
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Don't stoop anywhere near his level. Don't call name calling a leftist tactic. This could be completely true, and is in my opinion, but this will steer people away from examining the evidence for themselves.
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It is not a fucking leftist tactic. This is not political. You are creating a false dichotomy. This is good vs evil. There are good liberals. There are good conservatives. There is also evil on both sides. This is the type of ridiculous over-simplification that will ruin this investigation.
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The only reason that it seems that we are attacking leftists is because this started with leaked emails from democrats. I have no doubt that there are just as many conservatives involved in this, but we have to work with the evidence that we have so far. If we get info on conservatives, we will work just as hard to expose them. This isn't about politics, it's about protecting kids.
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Dennis Hastert (Republican convicted pedo) and Podesta are friends.
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Name calling is not exclusive to the left and saying it is, is divisive. I know that these emails were leaked from members of Hillary's inner circle. Everyone does. If emails leaked from powerful conservatives we would most likely find equally disturbing things. Let us not divide, but come together for the goal of protecting children from abuse and removing the abusers from power.
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Oddly enough i just read this. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-15/new-nobility-uses-political-correctness-fragment-precariats Talks about how people in power can abuse identity politics to divide an oppositional group/group effort.
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absolutely - the 2 party system is designed to create division, just look at the chaos we are currently in
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don't be melodramatic
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Presupposing that we are all politically aligned is stupid, misguided and detracts from the goal of this investigation. This is not a political mission, and there are no political affiliations. You are either helping, or carrying out the abuse of children, or you are fighting to stop it. It is not based on your political affiliation.
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wow, he really puts up a weak defense for himself.. 'white nationalists', 'racists' and 'homophobes' huh? ... literally none of these things factor into the allegations against him in any way.
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It's the tactic of a guilty man.
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Keep in mind jimmy pedo is ranked as one of the 50 most powerful people in DC. And the city paper did some hard shilling against frank winstead in response to him filing a complaint about comet using the sidewalk for pingpong and making themselves a traffic hazard (the video where a kid can be heard screaming help from across the street)
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someone should contact frank and let him know about r/pizzagate
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I just reached out to him. Will update if I get any reply
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I think my messages were routed to his alternative inbox...he is active right now. I posted this as a reply on something he shared. Is it too dramatic?
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Hey there, check your inbox! I'm not sure that facebook is letting my messages into your main inbox as we arent aquainted yet..It's very very important. Idk if you are aware but, comet has been linked to a LARGE scale child sex trafficking ring. We need your help to bring them down sir!! Thousands of people are working on breaking this case right now and any info you might have could be the info that does it. You inadvertently captured a big piece of evidence in one of your YouTube videos! Please read my message. You may be in danger!! We are aware that they stalked you when you raised complaints about traffic safety. Doesn't that seem a bit heavy handed? Please read my message or at least visit Reddit pizzagate and post there!! You could save the lives of countless children that are still being held!!
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Maybe just send him the thread link, or the 3 minute explanation video and leave it at that. Let him look into and decide himself.
IDK if you're aware of this but take a look..link done
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I thought about that but feared he would just perceive spam. I think it's better to be open with him. He caught a girl screaming for help on video ffs. Did you hear that? "Help me james!" "Help me, I'm here!!"winstead had to have realized that was inthe audio
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have you contacted him yet?
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Facebook makes it difficult to find messages of people you aren't friends with. Doesn't show on normal Convo list and if he doesn't have messenger it might not have any way to notify him. Hopefully he can find the people trying to get ahold of him.
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I commented on a wall post to be sure he saw it.
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Awesome. GJ. Hopefully he's willing to help!
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You probably won't. They reached out to him a week or so ago via 4chn and idt anything resulted.
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I was wondering....why anyone would think...that he'd do anything but deny it. What, he's gonna do an interview and go "yup, Reddit caught me"....
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No, if it were me I'd respond with outrage over how absolutely absurd the whole thing is. Of course, I'm a sane human being and wouldn't post pictures of a little girl with her hands taped to a table.
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That art on /pol/ is disturbing.
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Duly noted. Shivers.
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Best part is the comments
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Anyone who goes down the rabbit hole, knows it's true. Put these disgusting child rapists in jail.
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Nov 15 2016 18:18Posted by StirlinSilver
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Just look at how he changed his name "James Alefantis" = J'aime les enfants = I love children (French).
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Holy crap! I never made that connection with the name. And didn't know that he
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That is indeed damning. The guy is a pedophile.
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I haven't seen any evidence that he changed his name. Someone used their ancestry.com account to show his lineage, and it seemed to show that he was born with that name. If we do find evidence that he changed it to James Alefantis that would be extremely damning. I'm just going on the word of the poster with the ancestry.com account though; that guy could be a shill.
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Well. It's so similar as to be an incredible coincidence if so. Creepy name either way...
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Yeah and the DC public court records show no name changes.
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also interesting that he used the middle name Achilles - when he is responsible for blowing the cover off of all this shit
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the Achilles Heel did them in, history repeats
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ALL AGES
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Just
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about changing the language used so that curious individuals will take this more seriously and continue digging. I recommend reading it to help reduce future coverage like this.
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Its tough to respond to ~~evidence~~ /r/conspiracy leaking out into the real world.
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You know, because
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Reddit is so fucking good at figuring shit out
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He thinks this is gonna blow over. We cant let that happen.
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Trump supporters on sites like Reddit and 4chan have long been looking for a stronger connection between Clinton and Jeffrey &gt;Epstein, a financial tycoon and sex offender whose plane Bill Clinton sometimes used. The Wikileaks release of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta's hacked emails inspired a feverish, and mostly hapless, search for salacious scandal evidence, while PolitiFact calls the evidence for a Clinton sex network "ridiculously thin."
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https://archive.is/7P1M0
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I can't wait to watch him fry....
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Make multiple accounts, hit him back with 5 star reviews about pizzagate.
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He is probably talking about /pol/ (as most really relevant research is from there anyway) and then Conspiracy theoreists, white nationalists, racists, and homophobes is really not to far off.
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he has clearly not been on this sub.. maybe we are all clear on that front after all :P
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This websites site icon is fucking perfect.
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http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/article/20842321/the-consequences-of-pizza-gate-are-real-at-comet-ping-pong
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No one has really said much about the tunnel underneath...is he purposely saying these things?
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If he has nothing to hide why doesnt he let the cops poke around on his property and computers?
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