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Hi Reddit! We're the z-sec.io team!
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Proof: https://www.z-sec.io/hiReddit.html
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We've noticed a good deal of traffic coming from a thread about our company (https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5danwt/it_security_company_created_by_bill_havre), and would love to set the record straight about a few things.
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First of all, we have no idea who Bill Havre is. We submitted our LLC documents to our lawyer, who then submitted them to the state—if Bill Havre signed off on the papers in Washington, that's just a coincidence. He has no stake in our company, and we do not have any other branches. The "Zanarkand Limited" that was found in the Panama Papers seems to be a company set up in the UK (https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10355005). We have no affiliation with the company, although we are quite sad that we weren't the only people to think of using Zanarkand (a reference to Final Fantasy) for our company name.
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Second, the cipher at the bottom of the website: we're all big fans of puzzles and cryptography and thought it would be fun to add a small puzzle to our site. We got the idea for a pigpen cipher from an Adventure Time comic (http://aaronrandall.com/blog/cracking-the-adventure-time-cipher/), and the whole point is to offer a discount to any new customers who figure it out. The cipher reads "Mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill." Shibboleet is a reference to an XKCD comic (http://xkcd.com/806/), and the filename, "hellofriend.svg," is a reference to Mr. Robot, something else we're huge fans of.
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Third, our strange bios. We've updated the site to explain why this is the case, but here's a short explanation: putting personally identifiable information (or PII) on a business website is a bad idea. It can be used for social engineering, which is a great way to gain access to a company. So instead of putting PII on our site, we went with obviously fake bios up to illustrate the idea. This has backfired a bit, but we're hoping the new explanation will help make that clear to future visitors.
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Finally, we would like to say that while we appreciate the traffic, and we fully support the arrest and conviction of anyone abusing children, we're just a bunch of security nerds trying to get a company off the ground. Our website changed recently because we wanted a more professional look, and we're still trying to figure this whole start-up thing out. If you keep an eye on the site, you’ll notice some more changes over the next few months—we’re hoping to roll out a hacking challenge to illustrate some of the ways a company can be compromised and PII stolen.
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Thank you for checking in, zsecio. You are really the first entity to respond in a perfectly reasonable manner.
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You're welcome!
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I'd like to emphasize what /u/archnihilist said. You are seriously the first entity that we have witch hunted that has responded reasonably whatsoever. I understand that accusations of child pedophilia is serious business and its understandable to jump to anger in response, but all we've seen (which the exception of your response) is just name-calling. Thanks for the professionalism.
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What is the custom or group?
shib·bo·leth
ˈSHibəliTH,-ˌleTH/
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noun: shibboleth; plural noun: shibboleths
a custom, principle, or belief distinguishing a particular class or group of people, especially a long-standing one regarded as outmoded or no longer important.
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Leet shibboleth.
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Why was the UK group only started 9/1/16, when pizzagate started gaining traction? How would that be leaked from the PP's?
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Here's the explanation for shibboleet:
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"Shibboleet" is a portmanteau of "shibboleth" and "leet". A "shibboleth" means any word, custom, or other signifier which is used by members of a group to recognize other members or those who are "in the know" about something. Its use originates in the Hebrew Bible, where the precise pronunciation of this word was used to distinguish Gileadites from Ephramitites. Leet (based on the word "elite") refers to "leet-speak", a practice of character substitution and abbreviation common across the Internet (or "teh 1n73rn3t", as you would say in leet). Thus, "shibboleet" is a shibboleth used to identify someone whose computer-knowledge is "elite." Leet is again in leet written as 1337 so again a reference back to the 1337 comic series including the comic mentioned above with Stallman.
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(taken from the explanation for the comic: https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/806#Explanation)
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So all we're saying is that we're nerds/geeks.
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You computer language is so leet that you http instead of https.
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Still not buying it. Shibboleth is a hidden group or custom.
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How was the UK site set up a few months ago, yet you link it to the Panama papers?
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So what does shibboleth mean to you, pedo? Explain your statement that the UK site was from Panama Papers and not you? How is that so, when you link shows they were created 2 months ago?
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Don't fall for this guys. This is a fucking shill. They created the account to post here, created other shill accounts to corroborate their nonsense story.
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Also a great point of a West Wing episode, where Bartlet is put in the unenviable position of verifying the faith of fearful asylum seekers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqkaBEWPH18
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Also, thanks for doing the decent thing and addressing a concerned community full throttle. I am reminded of another Sorkin show that had become a rehash of all he had written before; Newsroom. They demonise citizen journalism, and justifiably so with the circumstances provided (failed reddit witch hunt of Boston Bombers), but when there is no legitimate and public record of an investigation as potent as this currently, especially considering every circumstance connected to it (almost poetically, spanning back to when Andrew Breitbart broke Wiener's story on O&amp;A) I believe that this investigation is paramount. A worldwide community walking into the fire, ultimately hoping to find nothing, but with the intention of saving others when no one else will touch it is truly spectacular.
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THIS IS HOW PING PONG SHOULD HAVE CAME OUT ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION
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They would have, were they truly hiding nothing.
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indeed me thinks she doth protest too much
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good use of Shakespeare, drives the point home
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It's very odd that a company who touts themselves as a "premier security company" would put fake bios like that. No one would take you seriously. This would be more believable to me if you just didn't have the bios at all (Why bother putting bios, and fake bios at that, if you aren't going to list any real information anyways) Seems very strange to me still... but do appreciate you coming out with an explanation.
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Yeah, there has been some discussion internally about the bios. We may end up taking them down, although the guy who wrote them is really pushing for them to stay up :-p
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They said everything is "coincidence?" They said the company from panama papers "wasn't them." The creation of the website says 2016, how could that be panama papers?
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The whole thing seems suspect. It's all just a "coincidence." Nothing is coincidence in this investigation, we all know that.
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If someone were to be involved in a pedo-ring, they would create a whole ton of "plausible deniability" before they even started. They would create explanations for every question before the question was asked.
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shib·bo·leth
ˈSHibəliTH,-ˌleTH/
noun
noun: shibboleth; plural noun: shibboleths
a custom, principle, or belief distinguishing a particular class or group of people, especially a long-standing one regarded as outmoded or no longer important.
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Leet Shibboleth. What does it mean....
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Shibboleet is a reference to this XKCD comic: http://xkcd.com/806/
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I recently had someone ask me to go get a computer and turn it on so I could restart it. He refused to move further in the script until I said I had done that.
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So they're part of a leet pedo group that uses hidden meaning in language.
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a custom, principle, or belief distinguishing a particular class or group of people, especially a long-standing one regarded as outmoded or no longer important.
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You are leet Shibboleth. What does that mean?
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It means they're referencing a fucking webcomic, as they literally just said. Now shut up.
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They're referencing a comic derived from the word shibboleth and won't tell us what it means? Why don't you fuck off basement dwelling pedo-shill.
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Wtf broseph. They're referencing an XKCD comic that makes a joke combining "shibboleth" with "leet", which is linked above. As you've pointed out, "shibboleth" means something distinguishing a particular group of people. "Leet" is an Internet hacker slang joke. Therefore, "shibboleet" is a portmanteau of the two words. The joke is that the "geeks" mentioned in the comic are using "shibboleet" as a shibboleth. This company is referencing this comic by using that term. May I suggest you seek psychiatric help?
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I have beachfront property in the beautiful mountains of Kansas for sale.
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I didn't ask what the fucking comic means to you.
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Heil Hillary
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Trump will fall
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viva la Soros
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What script is trying to run when we load your page?
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Why do you have a DC branch of your company?
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Why does the google street view show an unoccupied building for your address?
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Don't believe them yet, too many questions and "coincidence."
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Madeleine McCann in the gematria, "Panama Papers from the UK," their shit site and weird bio hiding their identity, Harve is a "coincidence." It's a line of probable deniability that was created before they set forth. It's all set up to make them look innocent. I'm not yet convinced, stay vigilant.
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Notice no reply from them. I'm not buying it either.
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They haven't replied to any of my questions, but a few with their recycled answers. They're dusting the trail as we speak.
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Don't believe their lives. This thread is completely full of shit. There are 3 agents in this thread (at least)
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This. This thread is shit. It's all set up. Now we know they're fucking guilty.
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KEEP FUCKING DIGGING, FUCK THESE PRICKS.
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WikiLeaks may be compromised, this place is fucking shilling for someone, we're getting close everyone.
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You're a good guy.
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Stay strong.
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Kek's will be done. Shadilay!
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Sometimes a security firm is just a security firm.
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Harve
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Harve is connected to Rachel Chandler.
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/98730823#p98736590
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What are the odds of this?
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Yes, but Harve was a "coincidence" they said. Them in the Panama Papers was "another company from the UK" that was created 2 months ago, they said. Their code was a "coincidence" they said. Then dozens of shills show up doing nothing but corroborating their story without any info other than their BS story.
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Fuck this company. The fact that they showed up with such a weak backstory is suspect. The shill accounts are more evidence. We're hot on their tails.
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Plus the fact the mods are compromised as fuck. How is a fucking web comic proof of anything?
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https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1479272224816.png
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The script is actually loading fonts from Google--here's the relevant source code from our page:
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<pre><code>&lt;link href="http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:200,300,400,600,700,900" rel="stylesheet" /&gt;
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It's being flagged because we neglected to use https to load the fonts.
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We don't have a DC branch--if you take a look at our FCC filing (http://apps.fcc.gov/cgb/form499/499detail.cfm?FilerNum=831666), our address is in Georgia. The DC address is for the person who filed our business application. We don't have anything to do with him, and have no idea who he is.
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Our address is a PO Box at a UPS store. We all work remotely, so it didn't make sense to lease any office space. Maybe once we're bigger, we'll be able to get an actual building, but for now it's just the PO Box.
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How does a bunch of security nerds forget to add https?
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Anyway everything else looks to check out, so we can close down this lead. Thanks for your time and, if you have any spare time, feel free to help out with the investigation.
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Honestly? Because we copied that bit from our old website, which wasn't https. It was a stupid oversight, which just goes to show that security is hard ;-)
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Edit: the oversight has been corrected. All pages are now using https to load fonts from Google.
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you could drop the http/https altogether and just start with // .then it will load regardless of site security.
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Ah, that's a good point. None of us are professional web developers, so little things like that often escape us.
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Thanks for the hint!
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:)
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1 other note on the google fonts. i noticed you're calling 6 different weights. thats just unnecessary and after a quick glance it doesn't seem like you're using all of them. feel free to drop a few of the weights.
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Gotcha, thanks again! We've updated the site with both suggestions :-)
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How does a "computer security" company have such limited knowledge of the internet and html code, including the security of how it loads?
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They're a startup, and incomplete optimization isn't of itself a security issue.
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Lmao. Yeah, please, if you have time to contribute to our goose chase please..
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These people have jobs.
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I 100% believe this and understand why you have the goofy fake bios to deter social engineering. This sub is getting hard to stay on board with anymore...when I saw the quite obvious Mr. Robot and FF references is when I quit reading theories about it. You're all just a bunch of nerds at z-sec :)
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User "moregrits".
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Account age: 11 months.
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Post count: 1 post, ~40 comments
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Karma: 1 / 252
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Disinfo.
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Dude shut up. Not everything is linked to some massive conspiracy. People like you are the reason that nobody takes Pizzagate seriously.
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To anyone reading: This is what disinfo looks like.
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Classic strawman argument. I never once tried to convince anyone of a conspiracy. But the explanations provided in this thread simply don't check out.
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Being skeptical is different from advocating conspiracy.
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Don't let people like hobodude34 stop you guys. Keep up the work, there are more of us than there are of them.
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Ok cool. Question though, when you say "disinfo", do you think that I got paid to come on this random sub and defend moregrits?
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He thinks I'm some kind of agent too. His paranoia has taken him off the deep end.
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He's 'releasing software' to try and track 'disinfo agents'. He seems to think the FBI have nothing better to do than post on reddit and 4chan haha.
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"Everyone who disagrees with me online must be a PAID FBI SHILL"
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Yep, that's pretty much the point I made in my OP. Some folks here take the smallest idea and really go far with it. I just fucking love grits and make a new account every year or whatever so some freak doesn't find out where I live or something.
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Moregrits is very rational about this and correct. Feel free to check out my account age.
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Age isn't the only thing being analyzed on potential bots :) Will be sharing software shortly.
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Fair enough, I guess we'll just have to disagree on this then. I think the explanations smell like horse-shit, but you are entitled to your opinion as well. I'm not down-voting you, or him.
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First off, the sidebar specifically suggests creating a throwaway account for posting here. That's why my account is brand new along with many others.
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Second, if you think this explanation is full of shit, I'm sure we'd all be open to hearing new evidence if you can find it.
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I even put together this whole summary of the 4chan thread that came up with the theory. https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dgev0/prepare_to_shit_bricks_4chan_anon_finds_a_hidden/
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And I for one am pretty satisfied with this explanation. Like /u/hobodude34 said, we have to be willing to put leads to rest when it's reasonable to do so. We can't cling to every pie in the sky connection and expect to be taken seriously.
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I'm still wondering why that Madeleine phrase was on the gematria site to begin with. But I have enough of a mind to acknowledge when a theory is grasping at straws, especially when another far more reasonable explanation exists.
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I think you'd see pretty quickly I was a girl if you had read my comment history instead of assuming I am being paid to suppress a pretty important investigation just because I said something you didn't like :(
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Omg!! Please go outside...you need a break. Even for like 15 minutes.
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Spend it reading my comment history and realizing I'm just a dorky vet tech who has some weird and stupid AHS theories...damn dude
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Haha, thanks for noticing! :-p
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To me this appears to be an early coverup attempt. I am 99% certain they are involved.
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I think you are a pedophile rutkdn. I have absolutly no proof, but if you say the opposite or try to show me i'm wrong, it will only be a coverup attempt.
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And I think you are James Alefantis or a close friend.
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A pretty good one if so. But i agree you can't rule anything out just yet. No offense to Zanarkand. If anything people now know about them and their services.
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That's a bit of a cop out. The fact of the matter is, internet-led investigations like this have the potential to quickly and severely damage the reputations of individuals and businesses.
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I'm all about the investigation, but let's not sugarcoat the impact of potential mistakes.
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What are your thoughts of getting to the bottom of #pizzagate.
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We fully support the arrest and prosecution of anyone involved in child abuse, no matter who they are.
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Unfortunately we cannot officially contribute to the investigation. As for independent help, we guard our personal Reddit accounts jealously, but several team members are involved in the effort to end sex trafficking.
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You guys are alright
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This explanation doesn't make sense.
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The timing is all fishy, and that's not how you run a startup. You'd want your name associated with it.
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This post is full of shit.
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Everyone go read: https://wikileaks.ch/IMG/pdf/WikiLeaks_Response_v6.pdf
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Agreed...you guys are on to something and somehow they saw a lot of traffic and found this little r/pizzagate thread and decided to excuse themselves...GTFO.
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So you found this subreddit by backtracking the "traffic" increase you were getting? Security firm, forgets HTTPS....shows how hard security is...decided to use "pigpen" code...
The pigpen cipher (alternately referred to as the masonic cipher, Freemason's cipher, Napoleon cipher, and tic-tac-toe cipher)[2][3] is a geometric simple substitution cipher, which exchanges letters for symbols which are fragments of a grid. The example key shows one way the letters can be assigned to the grid.
And it's all just honky dory...dude, no offense, but this sounds like total bullshit and maybe some of these guys in here are afraid to speak up, but I call bullshit.
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You nailed it. People should read the whole thread and realize this was set up as a distraction. There is deliberate misdirection throughout, and the narrative starts to break down when you look at it from start to finish. None of us would have ever found this site without the misdirection. They were trying to lead us here. Trace back how this started, and it is obvious: https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5danwt/it_security_company_created_by_bill_havre/
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Yep
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Dont mind the people here with their crazy accusions. This whole thing blow up way to fast now everybody is paranoid and does not trust anything or anyone anymore. Good luck with your startup venture :)
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Thank you!
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Not buying this explanation. Keep digging folks.
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Thank you for your presence
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No problem!
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This is hilarious! Needs to be it's own chapter in the book somebody's going to write.
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It says the website from the UK was created 9/2016, which is around when pizzagate started gaining traction. Is there any way that filing is a dust off of the trail? Why would both of you come up with the same exact name? We've learned coincidence is not by accident, in this investigation.
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The thing is that if someone were to be involved in such a pedo ring, they would take certain measures to be able to backtrack on their story, they would create certain fake paths before they embark on their journey, etc. Everything you listed you explained as "coincidence."
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shib·bo·leth
ˈSHibəliTH,-ˌleTH/
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noun: shibboleth; plural noun: shibboleths
a custom, principle, or belief distinguishing a particular class or group of people, especially a long-standing one regarded as outmoded or no longer important.
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What does leet shibboleth mean?
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Thanks for taking the time to explain all this to us
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You're welcome! And we apologize for not putting this up sooner.
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So there's one remaining question.
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Why does your cipher at the bottom spell out Madelline McCann? (or however you spell it)
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There seem to be 2 posters here running interference replying to each other. Don't buy their excuses folks keep digging
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Please answer this question asap.
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Here's the explanation we posted earlier: https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5dgtcn/hi_reddit_were_the_zsecio_team/da4et0h/
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The text is "Mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill."
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I see. I didn't read the post you were responding enough to realize they were just adding up the value of the whole phrase which means dick.
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Good luck with your startup, guys.
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Thank you!
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I appreciate you trying to help. But you have not explained why the text produced the string about Madeleine McCann. You directed to me another thread, but the thread does not include the word "Madeleine" or anything related (as far as I can tell).
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You might not realize this, but 4chan and others decoded a string of text on the website to say: "Missing British Girl Madeleine Mccann Portugal Two Zero Zero Seven" I believe this is referring to a different string than the one producing "Mention shibboleet to receive a discount on your first bill" (but I could be wrong about that).
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http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/98730823#p98753389
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What is the old-standing group that you belong to? Greeks thought it was ok to diddle with boys. You're leet shibboleth?
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The cipher spelled Madeleine McCann Britain Two Zero Zero Seven.
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Sigh, no it didn't. I don't think you understand Gematria.
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Still wondering why they stopped responding once Shibboleth was asked about.
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shib·bo·leth
ˈSHibəliTH,-ˌleTH/
noun
noun: shibboleth; plural noun: shibboleths
a custom, principle, or belief distinguishing a particular class or group of people, especially a long-standing one regarded as outmoded or no longer important.
"the party began to break with the shibboleths of the left"
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AKA diddling boys. Watch them come up with a stupid explanation for this as well.
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Wew lad
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Can you show us your break down of the cipher?
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Sure! Here's an illustration: http://imgur.com/81mCtB1
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We used a standard pigpen cipher (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigpen_cipher#/media/File:Pigpen_cipher_key.svg) and then used the unique letters in Zanarkand to key it. From that, you get the code at the bottom of our site.
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Thanks, so they used a wrong key or something to end up with the McCann message?
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Yeah, didn't go for the easiest answer. A shame we wasted a day running down that lead but maybe it'll ground us into only going with facts we can see with our own damn eyes.
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That's what it looks like. We aren't familiar with Gematria, though, so we can't say for sure how that message came from our cipher.
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Gematria produces a lot of suspicious-looking messages
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The thing is that it spelled out her name, exactly. How is that possible, along with Harve being a "coincidence," their website having mistakes, etc.
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It's all just a coincidence is their answer. I need more evidence to exonerate in my mind.
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You need to understand how the http://www.gematrix.org/ website works so you can ease your mind. Every phrase that it matches is a phrase that someone else has typed into the website. So the cipher didn't "spell out her name exactly." It equaled 698 in gematria (which is like a=1, b=2 etc.) Which the Mccann phrase also equals, but only because it was typed that way and only because someone searched that EXACT phrase on http://www.gematrix.org/.
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Other phrases that equal 698 include "Orgone Bucket Blasters Planted In Historic Sites And Monuments Of Canada," "Dolphins And Whales Bring Tremendous Crystalline Light To The Planet," and "There Is Absolutely Nothing Wrong With Being A Portland Oregon Girl."
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But that website only brings up those specific weird phrases because THOSE ARE OTHER PHRASES PEOPLE HAVE SEARCHED ON THAT WEBSITE.
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Thanks, this is something nobody could explain and puts the whole cipher story to rest for me. I wasn't letting it go because I said to myself
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there's no fucking way it spelled her name correctly and also had the word 'Portugal', no fucking way
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... but knowing other people searched those terms and it 'glues' them together makes a lot more sense now. Cheers.
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So basically pizzagate planted the gematrix phrase and then pizzagate found it somewhere and got a boner.
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I explained this to PatrioticDeplo last night, and yet he continues to act ignorant of gematria.
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I'm starting to wonder, given his pattern of calling people shills, is himself the shill. Gematria is the go to way to mock conspiracy theory culture. There's no faster way to make us look crazy than make a big deal about weird Biblical numerology.
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There's definitely a behavior here lately.
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First they came to bird dog us and found us to be informed and victorious and polite.
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Now they've come to simply act the way they accuse us of acting. It's like Jews painting swastikas on things so they can cry victim. Or Muslim girls making up stories about stolen hijabs or whatever.
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Children. Children everywhere.
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Stupid children.
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"Stupid children"
He's a pedophile guys, get him!!!
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That behaviour is big on 4chan/8chan. Make a point that they can't rebut and the comeback is that you're a cuck/fag/kike.
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he thing is that it spelled out her name, exactly.
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It didn't. There's the answer.
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You're wrong.
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Did you just call yourself wrong?
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That might have been the most respectable way to handle the situation they were in.
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Is there anything you can contribute to the investigation?
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This is a wholly charitable investigation involving thousands of dedicated people that are donating time, knowledge, and skills.
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Anything you can help with? We need more "technologically advanced" individuals to help.
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GTFO
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Sketchy as hell def seems like a cover up. You're being connected with a possible pedophile ring, you know like one that fucks and kills infants, who the fuck talks like this in that context?
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"Haha, thanks for noticing! :-p"
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BULL SHIT!
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This evidence is about as real as Obama's birth certificate. Not buying it. Not going to accept the word of some compromised mod.
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Hey, I was in the 4chan threads trying to get people off the gematria red-herring. Were you folks aware that the pigpen cipher is commonly used by freemasons and is considered a sign of masonic connections? It's also very common
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edit: Also how much do you charge for pentesting? You said none of you are professional web developers, so I'm interested in what your process would be for pentesting a website. Can you properly audit application-level vulnerabilities?
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Thanks!
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We know that freemasons used the same cipher, but we really just used it because of the Adventure Time reference. (We're nerds ;-)
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Edit: We don't advertise prices for pentesting since it's generally a custom quote, but you can submit an inquiry online if you would like a pentest. We do have OSCP-certified pentesters who head every test--and breaking a website is much easier than building one :-p Additionally, auditing custom applications for vulnerabilities isn't something we currently offer.
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check edit pls :)
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Just edited our response :-)
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Thank you for clairifying!
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You're welcome!
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Please contribute to this investigation in your free time. It is your duty.
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Unfortunately we cannot officially contribute anything to the investigation.
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Then unofficially contribute to 4/8chan anonymously. We need people with your groups expertiese assisting this operation. I understand the inability to "officially" contribute but like I said, help in any way you can. Whether it be via scripts or explanation of how one may do x, y, z on something. Every bit helps confirm or debunk leads, and create new leads to pursue.
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Side note: Do you like maroon 5, George bush's talking points or have a password that is 123456Seven?
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Is this the SocietyARG? We could use a few "Elliots"
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Hello Friend.
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Diego bi dur allasen zaten ortalık karışık
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Company contacted the moderation staff and have provided proof of their identity. The same proof is provided in the OP's post.
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Thank you for clearing things up . I and the rest of the moderators have confirmed this is legitimate
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oooooooooooops
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Fuck off role player
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